
For marketing leaders building AI-enabled personalization, this session explains how to turn customer data into relevant, valuable interactions at scale.
Dave Edelman explains why effective personalization starts with the customer’s context rather than a company’s campaign calendar. Using examples from Nespresso, Verizon, Aetna, Marriott, Shopify, Pepsi, Orange, SonderMind, and Noom, he shows how triggers, zero-party data, generative AI, and rapid experimentation improve customer experiences and business results. The session covers personalized video, AI-assisted data integration, call-center intelligence, multivariate testing, content tagging, privacy, and cross-product orchestration. Dave argues that technology alone is insufficient: companies need five- to six-person agile pods, two-week sprints, clear business priorities, and a continuous test-and-learn discipline to deliver the next best conversation.
Next best conversation personalization identifies a customer’s current context and trigger, then selects an interaction that creates value. It does not begin with a promotion and build a recipient list afterward.
Nespresso used Dave’s purchase to add him to promotional lists, despite knowing he had just received a machine and 100 pods. A personalized journey would have supported onboarding, flavor discovery, education, and appropriately timed replenishment.
Verizon’s stronger approach begins with an attrition signal, recognizes repeated data overages, and recommends a higher-priced plan that lowers the customer’s overall spending. Personalization works when customer and company economics align.
At Aetna, 70% of recipients watched a 3.5-minute personalized health-plan explanation. Call-center volume fell by more than 20%, Net Promoter Score improved, and subsequent email engagement increased.
Tools such as Narrative’s Rosetta can examine different database schemas, write integration code, and standardize information from billing, service, sales, and marketing systems. Pepsi uses the approach across 40 geographies.
Zero-party data comes directly and permissionfully from customers through questions, preferences, quizzes, or games. Marriott Bonvoy, Netflix, Aetna, and SonderMind demonstrate how explicit input can improve recommendations and service.
Shopify used OfferFit to optimize roughly 500 message combinations based on free-trial behavior, business type, and journey data. Large-scale multivariate testing can identify what works for specific customers rather than only the average winner.
One airline increased personalized content production by 40 times using generative AI while controlling brand voice, message tone, and blacklisted words. Human review and structured experimentation remained necessary.
An airline tagged content across 44 dimensions during 1,000 campaigns and billions of impressions over 18 months. That metadata revealed which colors, models, calls to action, and words such as “new” or “free” worked for different audiences.
Five- to six-person cross-functional pods, two-week sprints, backlogs, and daily standups reduce handoffs and accelerate experiments. Traditional hierarchical marketing structures cannot sustain rapid, trigger-based learning.
Identify observable moments such as onboarding, repeated usage limits, unresolved service calls, trial expiration, attrition risk, or a major life goal. Define the useful next conversation for each trigger before selecting technology.
Choose a recent-purchase campaign and redesign it around education, setup, discovery, and feedback. Delay replenishment or cross-sell messages until customer behavior shows that they are relevant.
Use a platform such as SundaySky to explain a complex product, plan, bill, or onboarding process with customer-specific information. Measure completion, service contacts, satisfaction, and later engagement.
Use call and chat intelligence to identify complaints, unresolved issues, competitor mentions, confusion, and cross-sell needs. Store these as structured customer signals and trigger coordinated follow-up rather than leaving them inside service systems.
Ask a small number of useful questions during account creation, onboarding, loyalty interactions, or product selection. Explain the benefit, retain answers in an accessible profile, and allow customers to update changing preferences.
Select one use case that requires information from two or three systems, such as billing, marketing, and customer service. Test AI-assisted schema mapping and normalization before committing millions to a broad infrastructure program.
Allocate 10% to 20% of the marketing budget to new tests. Use multivariate experimentation where volume permits and evaluate results by customer segment or behavior, not only by overall averages.
Create a metadata taxonomy covering offer, tone, imagery, color, call-to-action placement, product, journey stage, and audience. Require platforms such as Adobe, Salesforce, or Braze to capture exposure and outcome data consistently.
Organize five- to six-person teams around outcomes such as Medicare sales, small-business leads, onboarding, or retention. Give each pod the skills, data access, compliance support, and authority required to ship recurring tests.
Rank the top customer-level priorities across product teams instead of allowing each unit to send independent promotions. Combine initial business rules with AI recommendations and ongoing testing to determine whom to contact, about what, and when.
1. Campaign Personalization Is a Category Error: Dave distinguishes personalization from using a transaction to populate a mailing list. After buying a Nespresso machine with 100 pods, he received daily pod discounts beginning three days later and another machine offer slightly more than a week afterward. Nespresso already knew his residential address, selected flavors, and delivery date, yet ignored that context. A next best conversation could have asked whether he enjoyed the machine, explained iced and hot coffee options, introduced coffees from different regions, or offered auto-replenishment at an appropriate time. The central strategic shift is from selecting audiences for prebuilt pitches to continuously recognizing customer states and designing interactions that move each person forward.
2. Value-Creating Triggers Improve the Economics: The Verizon example shows how a trigger can serve both the customer and the company. Ryan appears likely to leave because he has kept his phone for a long time and is on an unsuitable plan. Verizon and Meta can use those signals to place a relevant ad, offer a new television with a phone upgrade, collect zero-party data about trade-in preferences, and recognize repeated data-limit overages. The recommendation may raise Ryan’s monthly plan price while reducing his total costs. The journey then connects marketing with billing, fulfillment, and delivery tracking. This is more than message targeting: it is end-to-end experience design built around a specific customer problem and measurable commercial risk.
3. Personalized Education Can Reduce Service Demand: As Chief Marketing Officer at Aetna, Dave confronted widespread confusion about health insurance, including deductibles, coinsurance, copayments, provider networks, and appropriate care settings. Aetna used SundaySky to assemble personalized, largely animated 3.5-minute explanations. A video could identify covered family members, note that a spouse lacked a primary care physician, list five nearby in-network doctors accepting new patients, and show three local urgent care centers as alternatives to an emergency room. Seventy percent of recipients watched the content, call-center volume declined by more than 20%, Net Promoter Score increased, and customers opened later emails more often. The case demonstrates that personalization can educate customers while lowering operating costs.
4. AI Makes Disconnected Data More Usable: Customer context often remains divided among marketing, billing, service, sales, product usage, and regional systems. Orange and other telecommunications companies use Dataorbit to transform call-center and chat conversations into structured data. A complaint about preferential offers for new customers, a competitor mention, or an unresolved service issue can become an attrition trigger rather than disappearing into a recording. Narrative’s Rosetta addresses a different problem by reading database schemas, writing integration code, and standardizing data in a common destination. Pepsi applies it across 40 geographies; The Trade Desk integrates client and platform information; Snowflake uses it as an ingestion front end. AI reduces integration labor, although it cannot correct information never captured.
5. Zero-Party Data Creates Permissioned Relevance: Organizations that lack preference data can ask customers directly. Marriott Bonvoy, under Chief Customer Officer Peggy Roe, asks frequent business travelers where they want to vacation with family and what welcome gifts they prefer, then records answers in visible profiles. Netflix’s thumbs-up and thumbs-down controls are a simpler version. At Aetna, five trade-off questions helped people over 65 navigate complex Medicare choices, including travel coverage and preferred benefits. SonderMind goes further: gamified exercises assess 12 dimensions of how a person’s brain works, support therapist matching and treatment planning, and are repeated three months later to measure progress. Each example gives the customer an immediate reason to share information.
6. Experimentation Personalizes the Decision Rule: A/B testing identifies an average winner, but personalization requires learning which option works for which customer. Shopify’s conversion journey from free trial to paid service included about 10 variable elements and roughly 500 possible message combinations. OfferFit used trial behavior, line of business, and journey information to optimize choices, producing multiple-times daily returns over three months. Noom runs more than 100 tests each month, while Booking.com explicitly treats tests as experiments. Dave recommends directing 10% to 20% of the marketing budget toward new tests. Generative AI can create the required variations, but teams still need hypotheses, controlled deployment, human review, and segment-level measurement.
7. Content Volume Needs Structured Governance: One international airline used generative AI to increase personalized content output by 40 times. Its prompts and controls incorporated brand voice, message tone, and blacklisted words, illustrating why scale cannot mean unrestricted generation. The airline also tagged creative across 44 dimensions and, over 18 months, analyzed 1,000 campaigns and billions of impressions. It learned details such as effective colors, whether to feature a model, where to position the call to action, and when “new” outperformed “free.” Platforms including Adobe, Salesforce, and Braze can support this metadata. The management challenge is to make tagging mandatory so every experiment expands the organization’s reusable knowledge rather than producing an isolated result.
8. Operating Design Sets the Speed Limit: Personalization cannot move rapidly when 13 specialists and multiple agencies must hand work from one function to another. Dave recommends cross-functional pods of five to six people who combine complementary skills, maintain a prioritized backlog, work in two-week sprints, and hold daily standups. Even a highly regulated pharmaceutical company accelerated its process by incorporating compliance into this operating model. At Aetna, five pods focused on specific outcomes, including Medicare sales and small-business lead generation. AI can automate dashboards, generate creative options, and summarize results, but it does not remove organizational friction. Tight teams need shared goals, direct access to performance data, and authority to release controlled experiments.
9. Trust Depends on Purpose and Restraint: BCG consumer research cited by Dave found that 70% of U.S. customers had given more business to companies that used their information to help them. Conversely, two-thirds had stopped doing business with companies they believed used information inappropriately. These findings frame privacy as more than a consent requirement: the perceived purpose and usefulness of each interaction matter. Companies should secure permission, protect data, test potentially sensitive uses with employees and small customer samples, and avoid personalization that merely reveals how much the company knows. The threshold between useful and intrusive varies by person, so disciplined testing and clear customer benefit are safer than relying on a single universal rule.
10. Orchestration Prevents Cross-Product Bombardment: When multiple product teams target the same account independently, even individually relevant offers can create a poor customer experience. Dave recommends taking a customer-level view and ranking perhaps the top three product priorities at a given moment. An orchestration engine can consider current product usage, content consumption, service history, industry vertical, and other signals to recommend whom the sales force should contact and about what. AI can make an initial ranking, but leaders must define starting business rules and resolve trade-offs among products. This approach replaces internal competition for customer attention with a coordinated next best conversation governed by the overall brand relationship.
Next best conversation personalization uses a customer’s current context, behavior, journey stage, and explicit preferences to select the most useful interaction at that moment. Unlike campaign targeting, it begins with triggers such as onboarding, repeated overages, service dissatisfaction, trial expiration, or attrition risk, then coordinates the appropriate message, offer, education, or service response.
A company should begin with one valuable customer problem and a measurable proof of concept, not a company-wide technology overhaul. A personalized onboarding or educational experience can test available data, customer response, operational coordination, and economics. Aetna’s SundaySky pilot demonstrated this approach by reducing call-center volume by more than 20% while improving satisfaction and engagement.
Zero-party data is information customers intentionally provide, including preferences, goals, trade-offs, and feedback. Brands can collect it through onboarding questions, loyalty profiles, quizzes, ratings, and gamified assessments. Marriott Bonvoy asks about vacation plans and welcome gifts, while SonderMind uses exercises across 12 dimensions to improve therapist matching and track progress.
AI can inspect schemas in separate databases, generate transformation code, and standardize information from billing, sales, service, marketing, and regional systems. Narrative’s Rosetta supports this process for companies including Pepsi across 40 geographies, The Trade Desk, and Snowflake. AI can reduce manual integration work, but it cannot repair customer information that teams never captured or governed consistently.
Dave recommends allocating roughly 10% to 20% of the marketing budget to new tests that improve personalization over time. Teams should move beyond average A/B winners when they have sufficient scale, using multivariate testing to determine which content, offer, timing, and journey work for different customer types. Shopify tested approximately 500 message combinations with OfferFit.
Brands should use customer data for an evident benefit, obtain appropriate consent, secure the information, and test sensitive experiences before scaling them. BCG research cited by Dave found that 70% of U.S. consumers gave more business to companies that used their data helpfully, while two-thirds stopped buying from companies they believed used it inappropriately.
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